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27/07/2012 21:34:16
Tecnicamente un collezionista vintage dovrebbe collezionare vintage...
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27/07/2012 21:36:49
Qualche volta devo scrivere qualcosa di molto analitico sui collezionisti di giocattoli. E` un universo sin troppo umano...
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27/07/2012 21:39:04
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27/07/2012 21:46:11
...coda di paglia.....
Io colleziono tutto quello a cui sono legato ed interessato, essendo un grande esperto della "mitologia contemporanea", ho passato una vita dietro a questi personaggi, di conseguenza ho tanto materiale.
Ma avere 600 pz e averne solo 6 nn cambia assolutamente nulla, si può essere collezionisti anche con soli 6 pz in vetrina.
Se interessano solo 6 personaggi e giusto così, molto meglio di chi accumula senza sapere manco cosa compra solo per un piacere estetico e magari x colmare un vuoto interiore che nn finirà mai di riempire!
Vedi questo è quello che penso io, nn è legge, certamente, ma lo penso e lo dicop tranquillamente!
Oltretutto, tornando al vintage...credo che collezionare un robot vintage d`epoca (di difficile reperimento che necessita di grossi sacrifici per i costi elevati) è da collezionisti, mentre collezionare donnine nude in pvc, magari vestite da marinarette è da nerd sfigatello....ooppss scusate, nn dovevo dirlo....questa parola da fastidio....
by Go
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27/07/2012 21:47:09
No dai, non fare quello che eccede nell`altro senso ora... i toys, di un tipo o di un altro, per un verso o per l`altro, sono parte importante del nostro immaginario. Questo s`ha da ammettere, sennò saremmo un po` ipocriti... voglio dire, che ci teniamo è indubbiamente vero, siamo qui e ne parliamo spesso, no?
Su quello dei terremoti mi sono sentito un po` preso in causa, l`unica volta che mi sono accorto di una scossa (perché non dormivo) prima cosa ho pensato ai motuc... oddio, ho la scusante parziale che ne ho alcuni esposti proprio sopra la testata del letto, e un Tytus nelle corna non te lo auguri... 
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27/07/2012 21:48:31
Signori signori! E` un dannato dejà-vu! Ordine per iddio! 
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27/07/2012 21:50:09
Ah, cmq, ad agosto penso esca Ser Lanzerlotto.
Chicca per buongustai.
Cmq i più nerd di tutti sono quelli che dicono nerd agli altri in un forum di nerd. Siete avvisati.
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27/07/2012 21:55:39
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27/07/2012 21:59:59
e un Tytus nelle corna non te lo auguri...
non ci scherzare che io non voglio più roba sulla testa da quanto mi crollò addosso un mega poster di ken il guerriero nel cuore della notte
mi prese un colpo
senza contare quando cascano per il caldo ogni volta un mezzo infarto
un giorno ci fu una pioggia di myth cloth huahuauhauha
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27/07/2012 22:01:10
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27/07/2012 22:31:56
lo sbaglio (e lo faccio io per primo lo ammetto) è che spesso iniziamo a cavarci gli occhi per le differenze
anziché discutere sui punti in comune...
tanto alla fine si colleziona (o accumula) con metodi talmente diversi che se iniziamo a dirci per cosa ci sembriamo sfigati a vicenda diventiamo tutti sfigati gli uni per gli altri e cosa ci resta?
nulla direi, se non un po di acido nello stomaco
e dire che un periodo avevamo un rapporto diverso anche qui sul forum, sai che sinceramente non ho mai capito quando è iniziato di preciso sto battibecco che ogni tanto ci si ripresenta?
e Simo, lo sai che non ti reputo uno sfigato, al massimo stano a modo tuo come qui siamo strani a modo nostro tutti, e non è una pecca o una colpa, anzi è il punto di forza di questo forum
che ci rompiamo le corna ma siamo sempre tutti qui a continuare a rompercele in allegria discutendo di questi prodotti che in un modo o nell`altro amiamo
quindi io dal canto mio mi scuso per avere usato un tono troppo drastico per etichettare i fan classicisti
provo ad esporre il concetto di prima in maniera meno categorica
quello che intendevo, è che essendo i motu classic una nuova linea calderone, ha una sua toyline ben precisa e che i collezionisti per la logia stessa della completezza dovrebbero accettarla in quanto tale
mi spiego, carnivus non esiste nei masters of the universe classici, ma invece è un pezzo della linea motu classic, quindi fa parte della collezione motu classic e un collezionista motu classic dovrebbe averlo in quanto pezzo integrante di quella data collezione no?
volevo solo dire che collezionare i master of the universe classic selezionando in base alla vecchia serie
è senza dubbio un modo, ma in pratica si sta facendo una fotocopia della linea vintage e non collezionando la linea motuc in se
che è una nuova serie (con buona parte della sua visione al passato chiaramente) e andrebbe presa come tale
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28/07/2012 00:26:33
l`interessantissima questione delle sfumature di nerd sarebbe interessante approfondirla altrove, che so, un topic apposito 
la butto lì, visto che via via salta fuori.
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28/07/2012 00:37:03
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28/07/2012 00:42:37
LoL
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28/07/2012 05:54:56
a guardare su wikipedia inizio a sospettare che tutti noi usiamo il termine nerd a sproposito
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28/07/2012 07:36:34
Torniamo a bomba sull`argomento
Ultime fresche da Matty
Toy Fans,
Have you heard about Early Access? It’san awesome new benefit where all 2013 club subscribers can buy non-subscription products before they’re released to the public! We know some of you had questions, so we want to explain how it will work. Not only that, but we’ve just confirmed that 2013 SDCC products will be included! Read on for all the details…
Q. How does Early Access work?
A. Around December of 2012, subscribers to any 2013 clubs will receive an email that includes a link to a members-only portal. Then, starting in January 2013, several business days before each Early Access period opens (the exact day depends on the date of the sale), you’ll receive an email reminder that tells you when it opens and what products are available, plus a link to the members-only portal (we’ll also post reminders in our Forums and on Facebook and Twitter). When Early Access opens, just log in to the portal and begin the purchase process!
Q. What can I buy?
A. Early Access was created especially so 2013 subscribers can more easily buy products NOT available through subscriptions. So, for example, when a product that isn’t part of a subscription goes on sale (like 2012’s Granymyr™ or the PKE Meter), subscribers will get the first chance to buy it through Early Access. If it sells out during the Early Access period, that’s it – there won’t be any product for non-subscription holders to buy in the coming sale.
Q. If I have one brand’s subscription can I buy from the other brands?
A. Early Access lets subscribers have the first chance at purchasing products that aren’t available in any of the subscriptions. Early Access will NOT allow you to buy subscription products from other brands early. For example, if you have a Watchmen subscription, you can’t buy Club Eternia subscription products early, like Netossa™ or Elongated Man – but you CAN buy Masters of the Universe® Classics products that aren’t part of Club Eternia®, like Granymyr™.
Q. Will all non-subscription products be available for Early Access? What if they sell out?
A. Most non-subscription products will be available for purchase through Early Access, but please keep in mind that our production quotas for 2013 will be much smaller than in years’ past. If products sell out during Early Access, that’s it — there won’t be more available for the regular monthly sale.
Le stanno studiando tutte, tranne quella di sbottonarsi sui restanti personaggi del 2013.
Contenti loro
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28/07/2012 07:45:28
questa è bellissima
una corsia preferenziale per le figures non in abbonamento...
quindi uno potrà garantirsi i pezzi brutti senza dover stare li a scannarsi con la massa
hihihi
se non postano la toyline dell`intero anno secondo me affondano con tutta la barca 
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28/07/2012 09:09:10
è proprio un pezzo di m....
continua a citare Granamyr, Granamyr, Granamyr...
questo perchè sa bene che, tra quelli presentati, è uno dei più richiesti dal fandom quindi, logicamente, fa leva subliminalmente su quel personaggio (di certo non potrebbe farla su qualche scempio non ancora presentato...)
peccato che, poche righe prima, dica "starting in January 2013"...
e peccato che Granamyr esca a Dicembre 2012...
quindi l`Early Access con Granamyr non avrà nulla a che fare... avrà a che fare con qualche personaggio extra non ancora presentato e, secondo me, non ancora nemmeno programmato, che Dio solo sa cosa potrebbe essere...
quindi, come al solito, aggiungiamo niente al niente...
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28/07/2012 09:28:46
Ecco l`unica uscita di Agosto...
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28/07/2012 09:35:08
e, già che ci siamo...
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28/07/2012 09:36:28
Guarda Kuro, più di una volta ho espresso un mio pensiero e tu a differenza di altri te la sei presa sul personale (anche se ammetto di avere un modo un pò duro di dire le cose), sai quante volte leggo cose che nn mi vanno bene ma ci passo sopra!
In un forum credo sia all`ordine del giorno.
Ultimamente ti ho reso solo pan per focaccia...
Comunque ok capitolo chiuso!
by Go
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28/07/2012 09:44:26
Naturalmente sono d`accordo con te, è giusto nn classificare ed eticchettare i vari collezionisti......
by Go
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28/07/2012 13:45:12
-So what happens if Mattel doesn’t meet this number? Well, we have heard everything from the number of figures made in the year could be reduced with the price going up to $35 a figure to the line being canceled altogether.
So why is it so many people seem reluctant to sign up this year for a subscription? Based on many of the comments we have been reading online from you the consumer, these seem to be the main reasons:
Price: At SDCC, Mattel announced that the cost of their already somewhat expensive figures would be going up in 2013. Regular figures which previously cost $20 will go up to $25 for subscribers and $27 for non-subscribers (people who prefer to try and buy the figures the day they go on sale). That doesn’t even cover the cost for people who want to buy these figures outside of the United States.
Character Choice: People are not happy with many of the characters selected to be made into action figures. Many people are only interested in seeing the main classic characters they grew up with as kids made and are not interested in variants, obscure or new characters.
The Unknown: Mattel wants people to commit to a year’s worth of figures but is only willing to tell people what figures will be available for the first couple of months. In other words, they want people to blindly throw down their money without knowing what figures they will actually be getting for the year. Yeah, we know pretty crazy huh - especially when you are talking about figures that cost $25-$27.
Customer Service & Quality Control: Since Mattel started selling their figures directly online, they have used a company called Digital River to process their orders. Over the years, this company has not developed a very good reputation with the fandom. With constant website crashes the day of figure sales, mixed up shipping and double charges on people’s credit cards, many people are reluctant to use a service that has such a bad rep. Now Mattel constantly has said they have worked with Digital River to improve that service and that the reason they use them is so they can ship internationally. Regardless, once that perception of bad service is established, it is very hard to overcome.
So what has Mattel done to try and address these concerns??? Well, not a hell of a whole lot. For the most part, they seem to want to try and scare people into subscribing. Either by saying the price will go up even more or the line will end all together, giving the impression that if either happens it’s the fault of the collectors for not supporting the line enough and not anything they have done or failed to do.
So what could Mattel be doing instead? We’ve compiled a list of ideas for Mattel to ponder. Now we realize that perhaps not all of these ideas are viable, and we get that Mattel is a business that needs to see some kind of potential profit from the products they put out. Still we think if Mattel really wants to see more subscribers, they are going to have to do a bit more than what they have done. So here is our list of ideas:
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28/07/2012 13:45:54
Remove the Unknown Factor: If you want people to commit their money to a year’s worth of product, then you HAVE to be willing to tell them what they are committing to. That doesn’t mean you need to show working production samples of every product you plan to release, but at the very least you need to put out a list of names so people have a general idea of what they are getting. We all know these toylines are planned out well over a year in advance, so there should be no reason why a list of names can’t be provided. It’s ridiculous to expect most people are going to buy into something without having any idea what it is they are getting.
Offer a customer service satisfaction guarantee: Mattel, you have a serious IMAGE problem with your customer service. If you can’t find a better alternative to Digital River then at the very least you need to put in writing and heavily promote some kind of Customer Service Guarantee. If a customer is not satisfied with their product or service, they need to know they have a hassle free way of returning said product and getting their money back. There is an old saying, “The Customer Is Always Right” and if they don’t have confidence in your service they aren’t going to commit to it.
Start showing some actual faith in your own product: I get that you want to have a number of guaranteed sales so you reduce your chance of taking a loss, but you know what the other message you are sending with that policy is??? You don’t have faith in your own products. If you don’t have faith in your products enough to make enough stock so the figures aren’t constantly selling out then why should I have faith in it as a consumer?
Better Product Availability: Do a better job of keeping older product in stock so you can start bringing new blood into the line: It has always struck me as ridiculous that I can’t go on MattyCollector and buy most of the previously released figures at anytime. Why am I going to start collecting a line now when it’s so difficult to get the main characters???? Most people don’t have the time to sit online at noon on the day of sale hoping they can buy something. You’re making it too difficult, not only for the long-time collectors but anyone new who might be interested in getting into the line. Yes, that means you have to start making more figures and keeping them in stock which might never sell, but that takes me back to my last point, START SHOWING SOME FAITH IN YOUR OWN PRODUCTS.
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28/07/2012 13:46:30
Make less obscure/unknown characters: This one is a tough one because we all know that the moment all the main characters are released the line is over right??? There are only so many main characters to be made and if Mattel did them all upfront, most collectors would buy those and move on. So introducing new characters IS essential to any kind of long-term future of the line, RIGHT???? So this is one collectors will have to answer for themselves. Are you really interested in the line lasting a long time, or are you only interested in getting the main characters and being done? In the end, I think the truth is most die-hard collectors just want the main characters and then to be done. If Mattel really wants MOTU to last for the long term, they are going to have to find ways to bring in new blood to the hobby beyond the 30-40 year olds who collect these figures because it’s what they grew up with. That being said, I don’t think trying to force those die-hard collectors to buy figures of new characters they really aren’t interested in is going to work, so at least for the short term it’s probably better just to give them what they want.
Offer more discounts to subscribers: The price of the figures is probably the biggest factor in whether or not someone is going to subscribe. Regardless of how justifiable the high prices are, if people can’t afford it they aren’t going to subscribe. So look at ways to offering more of a discount, or cheaper subscriptions. Break it down so people only have to commit to 3 or 6 months as opposed to a whole year. Or better yet let people pre-order figures on an individual basis, and if you have a particular figure that doesn’t meet your minimum order requirement then you cut it instead of cutting the whole line. Put out coupon codes for first time buyers. Find ways to hook new collectors so you are growing your consumer base instead of shrinking it.
Better Promotion: Quit expecting the collector world is going to come to you, get off your corporate forums, and start promoting these lines. There are plenty of cheap and effective ways you could be promoting these lines, and all you do is sit on some forums making some random posts expecting everyone is going to come running to you. Start releasing information to all the online media: hi-res images, better product descriptions, etc, etc. Get your marketing department in gear and start reaching out more. Word of mouth advertising isn’t going to cut it which is essentially what you have been doing for the last 4 years. There are at least a good couple million potential action figure collectors out there on the net you could be doing a better job of reaching. This isn’t “Field of Dreams, ” just because you build it doesn’t mean they will automatically come.
In the end I don’t know if MOTUC can be saved at this point or if it is even really in that much jeopardy of being canceled, but I do know that expecting people to buy into something they don’t want isn’t going to work, no matter how nicely or often you ask them to, so either start coming up with ways to give more people what they want or pull the plug, but don’t blame lack of collectors or their interests if you do, because many of them have already given you over 4 years of support and their money, and deserve better than that. If the line fails it’s not the collectors fault, it’s yours Mattel.
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